Kian

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So, small supposedly feathered dinosaur, concerning the IQ gaps observed between 'races',
http://www.medicaldaily.com/study-confirms-iq-tests-do-not-accurately-predict-intelligence-243971
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/iq-scores-not-accurate-marker-of-intelligence-study-shows/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/9755929/IQ-tests-do-not-reflect-intelligence.html
If we do consider that IQ does not provide a full picture of intelligence, in addition to various non-genetic factors which influence IQ test results, would you say that we can reasonably take the IQ gap as evidence in biological racial discussions?

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Virtually nothing in the paper did anything to discredit IQ.

The most glaring problem is that "intelligence" was not properly defined. It wasn't defined at all, actually. How exactly is a paper supposed to prove that IQ doesn't predict intelligence, when it won't even define what intelligence is in the first place?

Oh, and certain scores correlated with certain factors (whether the individuals being tested were smokers, for example). Obviously, this doesn't automatically mean anything other than a correlation existing, but the articles decided this must mean that those factors must be affecting the scores directly. Oh, but just the cultural ones - genetic correlations aren't real or significant, clearly.

This is but another example of the media getting away with misinterpreting, distorting, or outright fabricating the conclusions and implications of data to sell a marketable idea (in this case: IQ doesn't work, metrics are bad, people are immeasurably special snowflakes and differences in measured cognitive capacity are obviously not relevant at all).

The closest the paper came to discrediting IQ was by showing that the tests made for the study were more comprehensive than IQ.

If we do consider that IQ does not provide a full picture of intelligence,

Obviously. While the tests used in the study are more comprehensive than traditional IQ testing, they are:

1) Significantly correlated with IQ and "g" in most significant aspects

and

2) Not used as widely, as commonly, and for as long a time as IQ testing.

While IQ is not the absolute best metric for cognitive capacity, there is a massive amount of data that has been collected with it (and, as this and other studies have shown, is nonetheless reliable to a significant degree)

would you say that we can reasonably take the IQ gap as evidence in biological racial discussions

An gap not adjusted fro non-genetic factors? No. Any gap that hasn't been adjusted for factors which could influence it, should not be taken as

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Kian

"This is but another example of the media getting away with misinterpreting, distorting, or outright fabricating the conclusions and implications of data to sell a marketable idea (in this case: IQ doesn't work, metrics are bad, people are immeasurably special snowflakes and differences in measured cognitive capacity are obviously not relevant at all)."
[citation needed]

"Virtually nothing in the paper did anything to discredit IQ."
Well, you can just ask for some more sources.
(Sort of eh-ish)
http://select.nytimes.com/2007/09/14/opinion/14brooks.html?_r=0

This paper refers to a high relation between income/social status and IQ, the general environmental effects, as well as mentions to objections to what level IQ reflects 'actual' intelligence. It also explores the whole racial IQ 'thing' (and mentions that there is little genetic evidence for it).
http://psych.colorado.edu/~carey/pdfFiles/IQ_Neisser2.pdf

This paper gives information on the heritability of IQ; there are changes in the heritability with age, which can, of course, throw off IQ heritability studies if the age (and rate of physical maturity) aren't taken into account.
http://www.nature.com/mp/journal/v20/n1/full/mp2014105a.html

Another thing about IQ reliability.
http://www.webmd.com/brain/news/20121218/iq-test-really-measure-intelligence

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Kian

"An gap not adjusted fro non-genetic factors?"
Grammar and spelling aside, have your research sources corrected for those?

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[bad dubstep playing]

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what sepukku was made for

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What is the difference between 'good' and 'bad' dubstep?

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brit

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during unturned with u loora and low gun

we find cars
everyone gets in to kill
zombies

me gets zombies
gets out to grab backpack

velo runs u over with a car
"did i just kill britney??"

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Super Cool 11 Year Old

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Tfw when life is boring and mom yells at u alot so you have revolution on minecraft

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Micro-aggression Theory is Intellectual Trash

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Good thread.

http://www.debate.org/forums/society/topic/74413/

Explore discussion on the topic - Micro-aggression Theory is Intellectual Trash

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Kian

*triggered*

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Crystalliced

YES

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What is the banner that everyone has with all the mineplex people and you on the left end?

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Kian

This banner. http://www.mineplex.com/profile/4434223

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yes

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Super Cool 11 Year Old

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Thoughts on feminism in general (not radical, but the belief that women and men are equal, not above one another)

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